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Postby BUDA » Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:38 pm

Hi
Just had the car roaded (westec performance) and figures that came out were 311.9bhp & 252 lbs of torque, the car has been modified with HKS GD max clutch, HKS plugs & RS induction kit, earthing kit, GFB dump valve and is fully serviced every 4K. I am quite worried about the torque figure and wondered if anyone knows of problems that would cause this significant drop.
I was told it could be the plugs and that it was not boosting very hard, but i have noticed no change in the engine characteristics and am very happy with the mods and in fact have noticed gains.
I only roaded it as i wanted to get a reading before putting GFB pulleys, power enterprise timing belt and DCsports manifold,100cell sports cat and exhaust and Re-map

please help

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Postby Gangsta Smurf » Wed Oct 26, 2005 6:15 pm

What work has been done to the ECU after the Induction kit was fitted? Messing around with induction, and not re-mapping, will cause power disparities. Could be something to do with the problem you are experiencing.
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Postby BUDA » Wed Oct 26, 2005 8:59 pm

nothing has been done ecu wise, i was waiting for the zorst to go on

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Postby The Swede » Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:18 am

BUDA wrote:Hi
Just had the car roaded (westec performance) and figures that came out were 311.9bhp & 252 lbs of torque, the car has been modified with HKS GD max clutch, HKS plugs & RS induction kit, earthing kit, GFB dump valve and is fully serviced every 4K. I am quite worried about the torque figure and wondered if anyone knows of problems that would cause this significant drop.
I was told it could be the plugs and that it was not boosting very hard, but i have noticed no change in the engine characteristics and am very happy with the mods and in fact have noticed gains.
I only roaded it as i wanted to get a reading before putting GFB pulleys, power enterprise timing belt and DCsports manifold,100cell sports cat and exhaust and Re-map

please help

BUDA :(


For any lack of bhp, ask Chris B for advice. He'll tell you how it's done :wink:

PS: Your numbers indeed look pretty dissappointing for a WR1. That Torque figure is the one of a normal STi.

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Postby SPIKE LIKE MIKE » Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:19 am

Agree totally with gangsta there mate,
Do anything engine wise and re-mapping is nearly always req,d, after your initial map(usually 550+vat) every time u add or alter things the map will usually need a "tweak" this however is alot cheaper usually only labour time/roller time as they have a record of the initial map for your car then,

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Postby Gangsta Smurf » Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:34 am

BUDA wrote:nothing has been done ecu wise, i was waiting for the zorst to go on

BUDA



I'm pretty certain that the induction kit is the root of your problems my friend. You would definitely need a remap after putting something like that on because of the changes to the airflow/quality etc. I think i'm right in saying it will increase boost so your ecu has probably gone into safe mode to protect the engine from blowing up - which would explain the power disparity.

Also if the MAF sensor is damaged, from fitting the induction, that will cause a power disparity.

Get it checked asap mate. Could be big bill time if you don't
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Postby mark172_wr1 » Thu Oct 27, 2005 12:42 pm

your figures are well down as is mine..

After a lot of help from my local subaru dealer this week we have the problem. mine is standard and only creating 282.2 bhp when all the other are running at 316 - standard torque is well above yours

three wr1's in the local area are suffering from the same problem.
All three cars have the same broken part. (oxygen sensor).
the garage is suggesting a re-call to subaru UK

Have this part checked
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Postby BUDA » Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:43 pm

thanks for the replies & advice guys, im already in the process of getting things checked out and a visit to a main dealer is in hand.

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Postby SPIKE LIKE MIKE » Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:44 am

BUDA wrote:thanks for the replies & advice guys, im already in the process of getting things checked out and a visit to a main dealer is in hand.

BUDA :D


Main Dealer see,s an ind kit bud,
bye bye warranty,unless u have one of the few understanding dealers :wink:
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Postby WR1 Bro » Sat Dec 17, 2005 11:27 pm

Spike "THE LEGEND" Mike XXX wrote:
BUDA wrote:thanks for the replies & advice guys, im already in the process of getting things checked out and a visit to a main dealer is in hand.

BUDA :D


Main Dealer see,s an ind kit bud,
bye bye warranty,unless u have one of the few understanding dealers :wink:


How is your warranty Spike?
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Postby marky mark » Sun Dec 18, 2005 10:48 am

the induction kit without a remap will put a big hole in the mid range right where you dont want it, hence the poor torque, but it will still produce the power and feel nice at the top end.

The plugs, im not sure exactly which ones they are, but if they are the surface discharge type get shot. also some of the jobies tagged as 'racing' are more for reliability and to stop breaking down at consistent high RPM

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Postby SPIKE LIKE MIKE » Mon Dec 19, 2005 8:22 am

WR1 Bro wrote:
Spike "THE LEGEND" Mike XXX wrote:
BUDA wrote:thanks for the replies & advice guys, im already in the process of getting things checked out and a visit to a main dealer is in hand.

BUDA :D


Main Dealer see,s an ind kit bud,
bye bye warranty,unless u have one of the few understanding dealers :wink:


How is your warranty Spike?


cool, got some bits done under warranty last tuesday whilst in for a service :D

Bet that shocked ya!!!
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Postby WR1 Bro » Mon Dec 19, 2005 2:09 pm

Spike "THE LEGEND" Mike XXX wrote:
WR1 Bro wrote:
Spike "THE LEGEND" Mike XXX wrote:
BUDA wrote:thanks for the replies & advice guys, im already in the process of getting things checked out and a visit to a main dealer is in hand.

BUDA :D


Main Dealer see,s an ind kit bud,
bye bye warranty,unless u have one of the few understanding dealers :wink:


How is your warranty Spike?


cool, got some bits done under warranty last tuesday whilst in for a service :D

Bet that shocked ya!!!


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Postby SPIKE LIKE MIKE » Mon Dec 19, 2005 4:03 pm

WR1 Bro wrote:
Spike "THE LEGEND" Mike XXX wrote:
WR1 Bro wrote:
Spike "THE LEGEND" Mike XXX wrote:
BUDA wrote:thanks for the replies & advice guys, im already in the process of getting things checked out and a visit to a main dealer is in hand.

BUDA :D


Main Dealer see,s an ind kit bud,
bye bye warranty,unless u have one of the few understanding dealers :wink:


How is your warranty Spike?


cool, got some bits done under warranty last tuesday whilst in for a service :D

Bet that shocked ya!!!


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WR1 Bro wrote:
Spike "THE LEGEND" Mike XXX wrote:
WR1 Bro wrote:
Spike "THE LEGEND" Mike XXX wrote:
BUDA wrote:thanks for the replies & advice guys, im already in the process of getting things checked out and a visit to a main dealer is in hand.

BUDA :D


Main Dealer see,s an ind kit bud,
bye bye warranty,unless u have one of the few understanding dealers :wink:


How is your warranty Spike?


cool, got some bits done under warranty last tuesday whilst in for a service :D

Bet that shocked ya!!!


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