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Postby bob » Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:36 pm

Spike "THE LEGEND" Mike XXX wrote:Marky,

You heard of Matt from TRL? Seems to get great reviews/feedback.

Sets up map on rollers then fine-tunes on the road.

from what I hear/see his mapping sessions are ALL day affairs and alot of people having very long days as he does not let you go untill perfect.


Same way mine was done...Started on the rollers then driven by the mapper back on the roller then driven by me back on the rollers for final figs...09:00 start and at 15:30 we were just finishing up...
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Postby SPIKE LIKE MIKE » Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:43 pm

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Spike "THE LEGEND" Mike XXX wrote:Marky,

You heard of Matt from TRL? Seems to get great reviews/feedback.

Sets up map on rollers then fine-tunes on the road.

from what I hear/see his mapping sessions are ALL day affairs and alot of people having very long days as he does not let you go untill perfect.


I have not Spike. Sounds good, exactly how it should be done.

There is a few around getting a lot of praise. Zak from Mocom is another one. Personally i would not go to someone with relative 'few miles under the belt' but that's not to say they will not do it as thoroughly and as good as Bob Rawle, Andy Forrest, Pat herborn etc...


He's been doing oit over 20yrs apparently - mainly evo's i assume.

I will be asking if he does scoobs and If anti-lag can be enabled on the ECU as Ive been asked by 1 or 2 :wink: as he uses ECUTEK
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Postby Anders_WR1 » Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:32 pm

Spike "THE LEGEND" Mike XXX wrote:
Anders_WR1 wrote:While were on the subject of mapping, how much boost do you lot run on your standard engines? What have your mappers told you is a safe level for stocks UK STI engines? How long does your boost hold in to high revs?

Powerstation told me no more than 1.4 BAR as the STI UK engines aren't as strong as the Jap specs. Is this the case, or are they being too cautious? I'm sure I've read people with TD05-18G turbos are mapped to 1.6 BAR in the mid range?

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The WR1 (mine included) was mappecd to peak at 1.65 and tail off to 1.4.

I'm sure most of the 1's mapped that I know of run around the same setup :wink: Not sure about normal STI's????


Was that a Defi gauges 1.65 BAR, or what you saw on the ECUTEK mapping software? How long was 1.65 held for, until around 6K?

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Postby SPIKE LIKE MIKE » Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:35 pm

Anders_WR1 wrote:
Spike "THE LEGEND" Mike XXX wrote:
Anders_WR1 wrote:While were on the subject of mapping, how much boost do you lot run on your standard engines? What have your mappers told you is a safe level for stocks UK STI engines? How long does your boost hold in to high revs?

Powerstation told me no more than 1.4 BAR as the STI UK engines aren't as strong as the Jap specs. Is this the case, or are they being too cautious? I'm sure I've read people with TD05-18G turbos are mapped to 1.6 BAR in the mid range?

Cheers

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The WR1 (mine included) was mappecd to peak at 1.65 and tail off to 1.4.

I'm sure most of the 1's mapped that I know of run around the same setup :wink: Not sure about normal STI's????


Was that a Defi gauges 1.65 BAR, or what you saw on the ECUTEK mapping software? How long was 1.65 held for, until around 6K?

Cheers

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On defi's mate, would tail off"from memory" about 5-6k then gently tail to 1.4 on full revs.
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Postby WR1 Bro » Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:36 pm

Anders, there really should be a disclaimer attached to Spike's info! Be warned mate :thumb:
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Postby SPIKE LIKE MIKE » Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:38 pm

WR1 Bro wrote:Anders, there really should be a disclaimer attached to Spike's info! Be warned mate :thumb:


And this is a "helpful/informative" response is it :roll:

I have mentioned "from memory"

Bro obviously want a witch hunt tonight :roll:
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Postby WR1 Bro » Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:42 pm

Spike "THE LEGEND" Mike XXX wrote:
WR1 Bro wrote:Anders, there really should be a disclaimer attached to Spike's info! Be warned mate :thumb:


And this is a "helpful/informative" response is it :roll:


Yes, it is VERY helpful. The Scoobyworld is full of enough useless rubbish information and people need to know your form!
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Postby SPIKE LIKE MIKE » Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:44 pm

WR1 Bro wrote:
Spike "THE LEGEND" Mike XXX wrote:
WR1 Bro wrote:Anders, there really should be a disclaimer attached to Spike's info! Be warned mate :thumb:


And this is a "helpful/informative" response is it :roll:


Yes, it is VERY helpful. The Scoobyworld is full of enough useless rubbish information and people need to know your form!


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Postby WR1 Bro » Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:45 pm

Spike "THE LEGEND" Mike XXX wrote:
WR1 Bro wrote:
Spike "THE LEGEND" Mike XXX wrote:
WR1 Bro wrote:Anders, there really should be a disclaimer attached to Spike's info! Be warned mate :thumb:


And this is a "helpful/informative" response is it :roll:


Yes, it is VERY helpful. The Scoobyworld is full of enough useless rubbish information and people need to know your form!


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I very rarely offer advice as I know my limitations.... :thumb:
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Postby bob » Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:22 pm

My WR1 will hit 1.4 and start to drop at 6000 it tails to 1.2 at 7000
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Postby WR 1mposter » Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:17 am

[quote="bob"]Was not mentioning road or rollers mapping as AJ maps on the rollers then on the road. I was saying if a RR say
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Postby WR 1mposter » Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:20 am

Anders_WR1 wrote:
Spike "THE LEGEND" Mike XXX wrote:
Anders_WR1 wrote:While were on the subject of mapping, how much boost do you lot run on your standard engines? What have your mappers told you is a safe level for stocks UK STI engines? How long does your boost hold in to high revs?

Powerstation told me no more than 1.4 BAR as the STI UK engines aren't as strong as the Jap specs. Is this the case, or are they being too cautious? I'm sure I've read people with TD05-18G turbos are mapped to 1.6 BAR in the mid range?

Cheers

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The WR1 (mine included) was mappecd to peak at 1.65 and tail off to 1.4.

I'm sure most of the 1's mapped that I know of run around the same setup :wink: Not sure about normal STI's????


Was that a Defi gauges 1.65 BAR, or what you saw on the ECUTEK mapping software? How long was 1.65 held for, until around 6K?

Cheers

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My defi' show 1.5 bar on full chack !
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Postby bob » Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:27 am

[quote="WR 1mpostor (aka number 1 moderator)"][quote="bob"]Was not mentioning road or rollers mapping as AJ maps on the rollers then on the road. I was saying if a RR say
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Postby bob » Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:28 am

Mine will spike to 1.5ish but not hold that...
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Postby Anders_WR1 » Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:31 am

Spike "THE LEGEND" Mike XXX wrote:
Anders_WR1 wrote:
Spike "THE LEGEND" Mike XXX wrote:
Anders_WR1 wrote:While were on the subject of mapping, how much boost do you lot run on your standard engines? What have your mappers told you is a safe level for stocks UK STI engines? How long does your boost hold in to high revs?

Powerstation told me no more than 1.4 BAR as the STI UK engines aren't as strong as the Jap specs. Is this the case, or are they being too cautious? I'm sure I've read people with TD05-18G turbos are mapped to 1.6 BAR in the mid range?

Cheers

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The WR1 (mine included) was mappecd to peak at 1.65 and tail off to 1.4.

I'm sure most of the 1's mapped that I know of run around the same setup :wink: Not sure about normal STI's????


Was that a Defi gauges 1.65 BAR, or what you saw on the ECUTEK mapping software? How long was 1.65 held for, until around 6K?

Cheers

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On defi's mate, would tail off"from memory" about 5-6k then gently tail to 1.4 on full revs.


I asked if it was on Defi's because they over read slightly (0.1 BAR on mine). So you were probably hitting 1.55 BAR. That's still quite high from what I heard about VF35 turbos!

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Postby WR 1mposter » Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:39 am

Hers my last map readings peak boost 1.55


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Postby Gazman2054 » Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:23 am

New parts list Stu.
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Postby WR1 Bro » Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:39 am

I thought ChrisB had the APS DR725 FMIC??????
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Postby Gazman2054 » Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:46 am

WR1 Bro wrote:I thought ChrisB had the APS DR725 FMIC??????


Maybe he has now :?:
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Postby Anders_WR1 » Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:54 am

Here's my graph again. You've got 50bhp more than me at 4,000 rpm! I'll be interested to see what I get at WRC Tech though.

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Postby WR 1mposter » Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:40 am

Anders_WR1 wrote:Here's my graph again. You've got 50bhp more than me at 4,000 rpm! I'll be interested to see what I get at WRC Tech though.


I'm going there on Friday for my backbox to be changed.
Aslo going on the rollers to see if they can iron out a ickle miss
at 2800/3000rpm, :wink:
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Postby Anders_WR1 » Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:18 pm

WR 1mpostor (aka number 1 moderator) wrote:
Anders_WR1 wrote:Here's my graph again. You've got 50bhp more than me at 4,000 rpm! I'll be interested to see what I get at WRC Tech though.


I'm going there on Friday for my backbox to be changed.
Aslo going on the rollers to see if they can iron out a ickle miss
at 2800/3000rpm, :wink:


Do have a knock/cocklink fitted? After seeing the spike of Det caused by a faulty neutral position switch (when car was mapped at Powerstation), I would recommend one for everyone @
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Postby WR 1mposter » Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:25 pm

Anders_WR1 wrote:
WR 1mpostor (aka number 1 moderator) wrote:
Anders_WR1 wrote:Here's my graph again. You've got 50bhp more than me at 4,000 rpm! I'll be interested to see what I get at WRC Tech though.


I'm going there on Friday for my backbox to be changed.
Aslo going on the rollers to see if they can iron out a ickle miss
at 2800/3000rpm, :wink:


Do have a knock/cocklink fitted? After seeing the spike of Det caused by a faulty neutral position switch (when car was mapped at Powerstation), I would recommend one for everyone @
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Postby WR1 Bro » Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:41 pm

ScoobyDan had one fitted bit the installer forgot to earth it.... :roll: Apparently the engine was running smoothly NOT! It could have been an issue if it had be left undiscovered for much longer. Make sure you test the knocklink when installed.
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Postby WR 1mposter » Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:11 pm

WR1 Bro wrote:ScoobyDan had one fitted bit the installer forgot to earth it.... :roll: Apparently the engine was running smoothly NOT! It could have been an issue if it had be left undiscovered for much longer. Make sure you test the knocklink when installed.



But please explain the benficial terms of having it fitted ?
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Postby marky mark » Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:23 pm

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Postby Anders_WR1 » Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:34 pm

I know there's a lot of discussion on these, but I thought at
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Postby SPIKE LIKE MIKE » Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:36 pm

Something elso t look at worry about :roll:

Found myself looking at oil temp/pressure all teh time with defi;s and worrying!!

Fook havin a noblink you'd never feel like drving hard in case you had det!!

Scare dials - if your mods are done by a reputable dealer just enjoy em...untill it goes pop :lol: - then get better mods...SIMPLE :D
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Postby Anders_WR1 » Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:03 pm

Spike "THE LEGEND" Mike XXX wrote:Something elso t look at worry about :roll:

Found myself looking at oil temp/pressure all teh time with defi;s and worrying!!

Fook havin a noblink you'd never feel like drving hard in case you had det!!

Scare dials - if your mods are done by a reputable dealer just enjoy em...untill it goes pop :lol: - then get better mods...SIMPLE :D


I'd sooner identify a problem and sort it out before the engine blows, then I can spend the 2.5K saved on an engine rebuild on mods :mrgreen:

I don't have a bottomless pit of funds...
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Postby SPIKE LIKE MIKE » Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:05 pm

Anders_WR1 wrote:
Spike "THE LEGEND" Mike XXX wrote:Something elso t look at worry about :roll:

Found myself looking at oil temp/pressure all teh time with defi;s and worrying!!

Fook havin a noblink you'd never feel like drving hard in case you had det!!

Scare dials - if your mods are done by a reputable dealer just enjoy em...untill it goes pop :lol: - then get better mods...SIMPLE :D


I'd sooner identify a problem and sort it out before the engine blows, then I can spend the 2.5K saved on an engine rebuild on mods :mrgreen:

I don't have a bottomless pit of funds...


Neither do I matey...but lets be honest..its a great excuse and we ALWAYS find the money :wink:
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